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A Weblog on Iranian Affairs (Formerly Iran Votes 2005)

Monday, July 04, 2005

I liked the way Mr. Ahmadinejad played down US accusations of his involvement in hostage taking in 1979. While Iranian foreign ministry reacted to the allegations, rejecting them as false and unfounded, Ahmadinejad did not make any comment on the issue: sorry, but just not interested!
Clearly and understandably, Americans are not happy about the election result. But they need some anger management here. They way they are reacting to the ‘problem’ just adds to it. First came the allegations, which sent the message to the American people, and the world, that Iranians have voted for a former hostage taker as their president. This was followed by the illegal move as a result of which the assets of a number of Iranian companies in the US were expropriated. These companies were allegedly linked with Iran's nuclear program. Regardeless of the credibility of the latest allegations, these moves show the depth of Americans' confusion over the developments in Iran. Americans seem to assume that under pressure, the Iranian regime will eventually give up its hardline stance. But the truth is that their strategy will only reinforce the fundamentalists’ position.
In fact, the recent moves by the US has damaged the reputation of the Iranian people (not the regime) and at the same time contributed to an increase in Ahmadinejad's popularity domestically. Accusing the man who will soon become the leader of a nation (regardless of the way he achieved this) of being an international criminal does no good to the reputation of a nation who are already facing a hard time convincing the world of their peace-loving nature. Besides, placing restrictions on the activities of Iranian companies in the US in less than a week after the election sends the message to Iranians that the US is not happy about your ‘choice’. More precisely, it shows that Americans are angry. For Iranians who hardly forget American historical hostility towards themselves, this translates into a victory. No wonder then, that these days, people who voted for Ahmadinejad's rivals in the past election are pondering on what makes the US taking such measures against Iranians when the Ahmadinejad has not yet officially sworn-in as the president They are now thinking perhaps those who were insisting that Ahmadinejad would be 'the best choice to ensure Iran’s autonomy' were right. All the hardship the US is giving us as punishment is only the result of saying NO to their wishes.
So what will come next? When will the US hostility towards us end? When will they let us deal with our affairs by ourselves? Does the US ever realize that its moves make it very difficult for the opposition groups inside Iran to criticise the regime as they will be accused of spreading US (the enemy) propaganda?

40 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

You seem to have forgotten about all the assets that the mullahs stole from US companies after the revolution... it amounts to about 5 times more than what we siezed from the new government.

7:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also, your comment "For Iranians who hardly forget American historical hostility towards themselves, this translates into a victory."

Sure... how about the hundreds of people that the Iranian government has killed in terrorist attacks?

7:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would American NOT be happy with this election... this way once the country takes even more turns for the worse maybe it will convince the people to finally get a responsible governement.

7:43 PM  
Blogger Windsteed said...

Thanks 'anonymous' for your comments. But I would have liked to see some evidence for your claim that the value of the 'US assets' confiscated by the Iranian revolutionary government were "5 times" more than what the US has seized ever since the Revolution. Also, I did not understand what you meant by "hundreds of people that the Iranian government has killed in terrorist attack". When did the Iranian government kill "hundreds" of US citizens? Please show me some evidence. And for your other comments on the US interest in backing a 'responsible government' in Iran, please show me an example for a responsible government created or backed by the US in the Middle East. Cheers.

10:21 PM  
Anonymous Ali M said...

1983 attacks in Beyrouth against French, Italian and US peace keepers.

1986-87 : bombs in Paris

1994 : Buenos Aires Jewish cultural center.

1998 : Khobar towers against US troops

1980-2005 : assassination of dissidents abroad.

Those are for the terrorist attacks I can remember on the spot and I don't even count those committed inside Iran on a daily basis. If you make the gruesome addition, you will end up with hundreds of victims.

10:06 AM  
Blogger Windsteed said...

Dear Ali,

1983: if Iranian regime were involved in the attacks (I am not saying they were not but this has never been proven) why didn't Americans retaliate in the same way as they did after 9/11?
1986-87: no evidence that Iranian regime was directly involved
1994: same as 1983
1998: same as 1983
1980-2005: I totally agree. But I thinke we were taliking about American citizens
Now have a look at this record of American amity:
1953: Operation Ajax, toppling the most popular Iranian government (Mossadegh government)
1953-1979 stealing Iranian oil
1979: confiscating Iranian assets (estimated 12 billion dollars at the time of confiscation).
1980-1988 Supporting Saddam and his atrocities against Iranians.
1983: Donnald Rumsfeld in Iraq selling bilogical and chemical weapons to Saddam used against Iranians.
1988: shut down Iranian Airbus, killing 300 civilians on board.
...
But all this does not mean that I, or Iranians generally, have anti-American sentiment. To many of us American nation is a symbol of freedom and progress. However, in my view, to wipe off the bad memories of the past among Iranians, the US must to take up a strategy in which Iranian government and Iranian people are treated differently. Unfortunately, so far, most if not all of their policies as well as their reactions to developments inside Iran have resulted in damaging the reputation of the nation rather than shaking the pillars of the dictator regime.
Cheers.

4:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me address your points...

What evidence do you need to show that Iran supports with training, funding, weapons, sanctuary, diplomatic immunity, government offices and assets to conduct the operations that have killed people that were not at war with Iran. If your lokking for a smoking gun look at the FBI Directors testimony in civil court on the Iranian connection to the bombing in Khobar Towers. Yes the US supported the coup against the crazy Dr. in 1953... they thought he was going over to the USSR... but who was stealing the oil and who set up the coup... the Brits my friend. THEY had the sweetheart deal NOT the US. We STOLE NOTHING... we paid and yes we continue to pay with our blood to drive SUVs. The Airbus disaster was a horrible accident... but it was an accident, NOT the deliberate targeting of non-combatants and using non declared military personnel to attack. Besides, the Iranians were very culpable in that incident... do some studying on this. The Iranians set up a situation in the gulf by attacking unarmed tankers in the Gulf, they repeatedly tried to engage US ships... so the American ship thought it was again under attack. A terrible thing. Donald Rumsfeld did NOT sell biological and chemical weapons to the Iraqis... look to German companies for that. Hey even Ahmadinejad put a memorial in Tehran on that subject. What did we give them? Well the University of Iowa gave them some Anthrax samples that could not, and WERE NOT weaponized. This was agriculture related, anthrax is a natrually occuring disease there. That is a popular left wing lie. We did give the Iraqis imagery intelligence to even out the battlefield so the Iraqis didnt lose. But I fought in Iraq and I can tell you, I didnt see much US equipment. They fielded Russian and French weaponry... The Iranians had the US weapons. As for the finacial aspect, US companies had their buildings they bought stolen and all their equipment taken after the revolution... ask H ross Perot how much his company lost when the Iranian govnt of the mullahs refused to pay for services rendered and equipment lost. I would be willing to forgive if the Iranians quit giving money to the terrorist and stopped supporting killing US soldiers in Iraq. THAT IS A FACT... the IRGC has been VERY busy in Iraq.

6:09 PM  
Blogger Windsteed said...

I appreciate your comments. However, we seem to understand the meaning of FACT differently. For me, who has done extensive research on Iranian history, the fact is that Mossadegh was the most popular leader of the only democratic government in Iran's history. For you the 'fact' is that Mossadegh was only a 'crazy' man. In the same way, for me the FACT is that Kermit Roosevelt was the leader of the Operation Ajax and the coup from the US embassy in Tehran which was turned into the headquarter of the operation. All indicative of Americans direct role in the coup. But for you, Americans' role was simply limited to just 'supporting' the Brits. To me, 'buying' oil at a price much cheaper than the real market price and luring the selling government into buying weaponry with the same oil money at above-market price counts as stealing. For you it does not. It is a fair trade perhaps. For me the act of killing civilian passengers (to send a final warning to the mullahs to end the war) is an act of terrorism and murder. For you it is only an accident. For you Donnald Rumsfeld was acting an envoy for peace to Iraq in 1983. But for me he was not as I still recall the remains of the chemical weapons that my father brought home from the war zone with names of the German company Bayer as well as American companies (can't remember their names but recall Made in USA) on them. I also remember the faces of tens of infected men&women&children who were victims of those chemical agents. But I do not blame only the US or Iraq or Germany for that. I see the dirty mullahs as their true murderers. Those who wanted to export their 'Islam' at the cost of Iranian peoples'lives. The sad thing is that the same ideology has revived only recently. And we are scared. Because we remember. Because we have seen how dangerous it is. However, you might be, as you said you are, willing "to forgive the mullahs if they quit giving money to the terrorist and stopped supporting killing US soldiers in Iraq", but I am not. And I assume they are many Iranians who will never forgive the mullahs for their crimes against foreigners and their own people. We suffered from the mullahs AND from those who imposed the mullahs on us. From those who could help us get rid of them but they did not. We are still suffering my friend but this will end soon. I promise you.
Thanks again my anonymous friend.

8:43 PM  
Anonymous Ali M said...

For the record, the 1986-88 Paris terrorist waive were operated from Teheran. Fouad Ali Saleh was a student in Qom and has been trained there. It has also been established by French Intelligence that the explosive were brought in bottles of Arak from germany by iranian diplomats and there plenty of evidences shown during the trial.

You pointed out the absence of retaliation. It is precisely the problem. One of the reasons 9/11 happened is that the western countries opted for a policy of appeasment instead of facing the threat.

And finally I think Dr Mossadegh would be furious if he knew that the coup against him is used by the IRI since the very same founders of the IRI were against him at the time and did benefit as well from the coup.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

When, exactly, were more moderate Iranians planning on dealing with this situation themselves? The Mullahs have been repressing you relentlessly for 30 years, any small advance towards reform have been effectively squashed by the dictatorial "leader", and he has now installed his yes-man as President, effectively ending any voice for the majority in Iran that wishes for a normal life. When will it be enough? Are you fed up yet? And you suggest that the US should sublimely wait for your action, and hope for the best with this whole "nuclear weapon" issue. You, the moderate, reformist, majority in Iran have the ability to change this government at any time, yet the government stands. Should we wait until New York, or Baghdad, or Jerusalem are a smoldering ruin before we decide we have waited long enough? Does anyone really believe that these oil-soaked dictators want nuclear technology for electricity? Your lack of action, and willingness to wait for progress, is going to lead into a very unfortunate, very bloody, war.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

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9:21 PM  
Anonymous P. Healy said...

We americans have made numerous mistakes in our foreign policy in Iran, the most important of which (in my opinion) was allowing the British to subvert us into thinking the Communist threat was advancing into Iran. While Tudeh certainly had some influence in Iran, and also was certainly backed by Moscow, I question this statement of fact from the imperialist British that the USSR was preparing to undermine Mossadegh and replace him with pro-communists.

However, what was done, was done. I would be very unhappy with us in America if I was an Iranian, and I doubt I could ever understand what the conditions are like in Iran, but is there going to ever be to solve some differences? I wish people in both countries could get a little more educated about our historical differences and how they arose. This would be much easier for American people to do, but most of them simply put trust in the government until problems come about.

My concern now is that the rise in terror will create circumstances that resemble the spread of communism and will cause our government to fight it in any way possible, resulting in possible unforseen, long-term consequences.

I hope we can understand and help each other in the future.

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Anonymous Gary said...

"One of the reasons 9/11 happened is that the western countries opted for a policy of appeasment instead of facing the threat."

NO, One of the reasons 9/11 happened is that American and British Intell are running/supporting/protecting these terrorists like Omar Sheikh, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (i forget if that's the same person w 2 alias), Ali Mohammed, Emad Ali Salem, Dr. Magdy Elamir, Osama Bin Laden, Zawahiri, Zarqawi, etc.

FBI and DoJ was accused of "obstructing" their own anti-terror investigations, like Operation Green Quest.

Even John Loftus said as much. Bits and dribbles.
Not to mention the inability to halt the Pgon attack with a 90 min leeway. Comon. My 80-year-old mommy could have driven to the Pentagon to stop that attack, but Rummy and Cheney could not. Huh.

Sickening.

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